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EXCLUSIVE
PODESTA RESPONDS
Joe Rogan released a new interview with David Grusch on Wednesday in which the former military intelligence officer made a series of extraordinary new claims.
More on that below, but first, an on-record response from John Podesta to one claim in particular about the Democratic Party elder’s role in Disclosure efforts.
By way of background: Podesta, whose interest in UFOs dates at least as far back as his stint as Bill Clinton’s chief of staff in the 1990s, has long been an advocate of greater federal transparency on the subject. During the 2016 election cycle, when Podesta served as chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, the former secretary of state pledged to seek the release of UFO records if elected.
Hacked emails published by WikiLeaks, meanwhile, showed Blink-182 frontman Tom DeLonge emailing Podesta in 2015 and 2016 about UFOs, Roswell, and DeLonge’s interactions with retired Air Force Gen. Neil McCasland. The emails also included references to an apparent January 2016 call to discuss UFOs.
At the time, DeLonge was working on a multimedia UFO project called Sekret Machines. He went on to launch a company related to UFO media and potential breakthrough technologies.
In Grusch’s new interview, the former military intelligence officer cast those interactions as part of a concerted effort by Podesta to prepare society for the truth about UFOs.
“Podesta greenlit a— I’ll call it acclimatization activity, a popularization activity,” Grusch told the podcaster. “And, you know, that’s why Tom DeLonge got his advisors. That’s why General McCasland talked to him. It wasn’t because General McCasland, Robert Weiss [then-head of the Skunk Works] at Lockheed, other people— that’s all in WikiLeaks— just wanted to talk to Tom because he was a rock star and was infatuated by his celebrity and wanted to help on a sci-fi movie.”
“It was because they were given top cover to see Tom as a public figure who had the touch of the youth, rightly or wrongly,” Grusch said, “I mean, once again, there was an attempt and I’m not going to judge them bad or good, but they were trying to prep the battlespace prior to 2016.”
In an email to PARADIGM, Podesta publicly acknowledged for the first time discussing UFOs with DeLonge, McCasland and Weiss. But he disputed Grusch’s description of the context for those discussions.
“That is probably not how I would characterize our interaction,” Podesta wrote.
“My recollection is that Tom arranged a conference call with the individuals you mentioned and we discussed amongst other things, declassifying DOD files and reducing the stigma of professionals taking UAP’s seriously,” he wrote. “I have always maintained that the American people could handle the truth about UAP’s and didn’t really need to be ‘acclimated.’”
DeLonge’s company, To The Stars, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. DeLonge’s co-founder, Hal Puthoff, said in a text message that he believes the musician encountered McCasland and Weiss before encountering Podesta.
Weiss, who retired from Lockheed Martin in 2018, did not immediately respond to a request for comment left with Ultra Maritime, a company on whose board he serves. McCasland was reported missing from his New Mexico home in February. His disappearance is reportedly under investigation, and his whereabouts remain unknown.
BIG, IF TRUE
Grusch’s claim about Podesta was just one of several fresh allegations he made yesterday, several of them extraordinary. Here’s a rundown of his other claims:
During the course of his internal UAP investigation, he viewed clear video of a crash retrieval that included footage of “beautiful” humanoid aliens with long hair and pale, bluish skin.
He was informed of an incident in which personnel fought with and killed a “reptilian” alien
He reviewed evidence indicating violent conflict between “reptilian” and “gray” aliens
He was told by members of the intelligence community of a deep-sea base “multiple city blocks” in size that objects come in and out of
He found evidence that officers of a government agency were engaged in the trafficking of children and worked with the Justice Department on the matter
He was summoned to a meeting with senior staff from the Senate intelligence committee where he was informed that two people in the government had considered killing him until the idea was “kiboshed” (PARADIGM has queries out about this claim.)
Donald Trump and Stephen Miller are both determined to make substantive disclosures about UFOs and aliens. (Rogan chimed in that Miller told him at a UFC fight that more UFO information is going to come out)
He left his employment as a congressional staffer on Rep. Eric Burlison’s staff around Labor Day. (A spokesman for Burlison, Nate Lucas, confirmed this to PARADIGM but was not able to provide a specific date.)
Corporate counsel for the MITRE Corporation, a nonprofit that conducts R&D for the federal government, is working on a response to a May letter from Burlison demanding the production of UAP-related records.
You can watch the full interview here.
OF NOTE
Rep. Robert Garcia, the ranking Democrat on the House oversight committee, said the future of the committee’s UFO investigation would be decided after the election. (Ask a Pol UAP)
An unnamed “UAP expert who has had discussions with people with direct knowledge of Trump’s concerns” told Politico Magazine that the president seems to believe the government possesses evidence of non-human technology and is “disturbed about what to do.”
Two members of the UAP Science Advisory Council told the magazine they believed the CIA was obstructing disclosure of relevant records, which the White House denied. (Politico Magazine)
The Black Vault obtained new records about the Navy’s efforts to understand UAP via FOIA. (The Black Vault)
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